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Andrew Sniderman 🕷️'s avatar

This is very cool and useful but I can’t help feeling it’s a little circular like bots talking to each other? Ouroboros - yknow that Dragon that eats its own tail.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

I don't know about that, maybe so. I think the two big benefits of it are just the ability to try out the newest models when they're brand new at a much lower cost, and the one click/tap "Compare".

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Andrew Sniderman 🕷️'s avatar

For sure. The Verge article hints at a future where AI aggregators like search engines exist to give you the best content. That’d be an interesting progression. Evan Ratliff has a podcast called Shell Game and he goes through a bunch of increasingly crazy (disturbing?) scenarios where he wires up AI agents (trained w/ his voice and depending on the episode some personal background) and they talk to each other with some odd outcomes.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Yikes

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Phil Tanny's avatar

But how does Po do it? How do these other companies feel about Po reselling their services? I didn't get that part.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Sorry, I don't know. I have to imagine they have whatever level of partnerships with all paid-for bots and models, and even with the open source tools which likely aren't licensed for commercial use. I say that because Poe is well know, gets a fair amount of press.

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Daniel Nest's avatar

Yeah Poe is getting increasingly more attractive as a proposition. I'm still paying for ChatGPT Plus subscription, mainly for the integrated DALL-E 3 capabilities I used for AI Jest Daily. But the multi-bot chat feature and the buffet of models by Poe is becomign harder to resist.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

I'm still paying for the OpenAI/ChatGPT subscription plus one for Perplexity. What am I. made of money? I have had several stern talks with myself about this.

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Daniel Nest's avatar

Stop. Help us prevent Patrick-on-Patrick violence!

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

HA

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David Harper, CFA, FRM's avatar

Great share, thank you. I may need to subscribe to Poe. Consistent with your conversation, it appears that prior responses are part of the context window. Initially because the button is labelled "Compare" I expected new bots to key off the same prompt; e.g., making diagnostic comparisons easier.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Thanks for the kind words. I think it's a really great feature and Poe itself is great value since it offers access to so many of the top models and bots.

And yes you're right - when you hit compare, the bot you select will offer its response on the initial prompt given, and sometimes word its response as if it is speaking directly to the bot that responded above it.

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Phil Tanny's avatar

So I go to the Po homepage. It tells me almost nothing.

So as usual, the price to learn or see anything is an email address. Ok, I'll play, and give them my email.

But that's not enough. I have to confirm the email too. Ok, I'll do it.

But the email with the confirm code never comes.

So I go back to PO to confirm my email is correct. It is.

So I send another code to my email. That email never arrives either.

So thanks for wasting my time Po, I'm gone, unlikely to ever return.

This is the untold story of the gen AI world. Most AI service sites flush most of their prospects down the toilet via blatant incompetence.

And nobody gets why that might be a problem.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Here's a good overview of the Poe app, and its Quora ownership. There are others out there too:

https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/28/23849161/poe-ai-chatbot-platform-mac-app-llama-2-enterprise-tier

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